tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post249126987928704540..comments2024-03-25T02:53:48.654-07:00Comments on SVB on Wine: Are Immigrants taking American Jobs?Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-88846900224768746332013-06-27T17:03:47.395-07:002013-06-27T17:03:47.395-07:00Anon ABC - thanks for calling me a do-gooder. That...Anon ABC - thanks for calling me a do-gooder. That is a rare compliment for me. Your initial perspective in the first 3 paragraphs are are consistent with many. Essentially its I am here and make the rest of them follow the law. Fair and valid point.<br /><br />To your last 2 paragraphs, while its been a country of laws, we still need immigration reform because the labrynth of laws created by competing interests is now so daunting, legal immigration becomes only for the wealthy. Is that the right policy? Some think so. Since you are decrying the wealthy as opressing the working class, I can only presume that you don't want to have immigration only support the wealthy and we should allow penniless immigrants to come to the shores. Maybe you were one such person. If so, you would struggle greatly to find a path to citizenchip under the conflicting laws we presently have. And by the way .... both sides of the isle believe that.<br /><br />The seeds of American destruction comments are a little dramatic. While I will agree its not the 50's which I see as the pinacle of American success and life, most people if given a choice between 5 countries would still have the USA on the top of their list. <br /><br />Will we survive? I'm not certain. Economically there are seeds of destruction in any civilzation if left to root. The couple I worry about is the abandonment of faith and what that does for generosity and culture, and the entitlements that have to be addressed and a way found to foster growth again. The debt that we are taking on is not manageable, and I worry that we will abandon the notion that we are our brothers keepers and life is a team sport. We win together better than separately. Thankfully, our anemic population growth rate is being bolsterd by immigrants and that gives us the opportunity to see continued growth and prosperity for us all. We aren't out of the woods and who knows? You might be right and we will all go down the crapper. I hope not.<br /><br />I have to go back to doing good now, but I do honestly and sincerely appreciate you weighing in with your view.Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-1262610185862467512013-06-27T16:42:45.053-07:002013-06-27T16:42:45.053-07:00From AnonymusABC -- (continued...)
The culminatio...From AnonymusABC -- (continued...)<br /><br />The culmination of their plan was fully realized in 2008, with the election of an inept, inexperienced, totally incompetent moron whose only qualities were having 'the right color, and the right type of 'charm'. <br /><br />Now, going back to the subject matter at hand, which is "Are Immigrants American jobs?" The answer is: in may fields, absolutely YES!<br /><br />Starting by agricultural jobs. The common argument is that immigrants do the jobs Americans won't do. <br />Given the fact that the government now is attempting to create a 'dependent' rather than a 'working class' by keeping people unemployed with enormously generous benefits and entitlements, why exactly would Americans bother to do field work, when they can be assured of more or less the same income by staying home, claiming disability and collecting unemployment checks?<br /><br />Do immigrants take jobs away from Americans in the building, packing, manufacturing and even some mechanical industries? Absolutely YES! <br />With the border completely broken, a lack of vigilance of businesses that hire illegals for much less than they would pay an American native, and politicians and unions attempting to keep the situation unchanged for their own purposes, there is absolute evidence that construction and factory jobs are going to non-Americans.<br /><br />Do immigrants take jobs away from Americans in the high tech business? Absolutely YES!<br />American unions and left wing politicians have decimated, corrupted and dumbed-down the education system, aided by the entertainment industry that keeps American children and young adults distracted, glued to one machine or another, and pacified with its inane, vapid and shallow TV, movies and music while foreign countries educate their children properly in science, humanities, philosophy and work-ethic. They are now the innovators and the technicians who create the next IT thing.<br /><br />To wrap up my argument, I and many of the immigrants who love this country more than you could possibly imagine, are now witnessing its destruction, engineered sadly by traitorous Americans, and aided by the entitlement addicted people who refuse to see the reality of the economic, moral and political havoc, the beyond-left-of-center government presently occupying Washington is wreaking upon its own apathetic people.This country now resembles almost completely the one we left! <br /><br />America, we now despair for your future and ours!<br /><br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-70572058462158552262013-06-27T16:40:08.158-07:002013-06-27T16:40:08.158-07:00I will call myself AnonymousABC to differentiate m...I will call myself AnonymousABC to differentiate myself from the people who have posted previously with the same name.<br /><br />My point is that 'do gooders' like the author of this piece, who claim that illegals do not take jobs from Americans, are not only wrong, but are helping to "kill the goose that laid the golden egg" for all of us LEGAL immigrants who struggled to come in 'the right way' despite the hurdles, the hardships and, many times, the unreasonable demands the Immigration Dept imposed upon us while following the letter of the law.<br /><br />Those demands and hurdles, we found out when we finally crossed the border, were worth the effort. This was a country where the laws and the government worked for the people; where opportunity abounded, and where the acceptance and generosity of the American people were something we had never experienced in our own country. On the contrary, what we happily left, were corrupt and uncaring oligarchs who worked hand in hand with an equally corrupt and uncaring government to stanch the aspirations of the common citizen in every possible way, not the least of which were injustice, oppression, and outright thievery of the wealth of the country for their own use.<br /><br />For a long time, the US was 'The City on the Hill', the hope of all who yearned to be free to pursue their dreams unhindered. This was a country of laws, not a country of 'political caciques', of a few rich individuals who milked the system for their sole advantage; powerful men who owned the resources, and whose children alone were meant to inherit whatever wealth and the power their parents had accumulated! <br /><br />The seeds of America's destruction were sown before my time, during the end of the war when 'the evil empire' planted its agents within the American government, who burrowed deeply into every agency and government bureau, then patiently waited for the blossoming of the evil it had sown. For a time they lay dormant, with only a few instances of discomfort, which came during the McCarthy era, and much later on, during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Then came the late 60's and 70's, with all the anti-American rabble rousers, hippies, communists disguised as liberal democrats, and bleeding-heart progressives who turned out to be the tools and the useful idiots the communist international would serve itself from in order to destroy the law and order which previously prevailed in this country. (continues....)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-762808678197820142013-04-30T12:42:02.825-07:002013-04-30T12:42:02.825-07:00Thanks PG. I didn't know that fact about decli...Thanks PG. I didn't know that fact about declinging birth rates.Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-4298282497870798832013-04-30T12:34:59.016-07:002013-04-30T12:34:59.016-07:00Anon 12:52. Mechanization can help, as can crop sc...Anon 12:52. Mechanization can help, as can crop science and genetics. I will ask the same question Pinotgraves asks below: Which technologies are the UFW keepng from being more implimented?Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-81162911883975406872013-04-30T12:23:53.060-07:002013-04-30T12:23:53.060-07:00Anon 10:46 - As I understand the situation in the ...Anon 10:46 - As I understand the situation in the Tech Business, because of the shortage in specific technical fields - the companies have and are still doing presicely what you suggest but the success rate is quite low. We are taking about very specialized skills. Remember too that companies are looking for experience, so training won't necessarily solve the shortage in experience. While it would be nice to have the high-paying jobs stay in the US if the addition of someone under an H1-B visa adds to the success of a tech product, that will add jobs to the economy.<br /><br />No - college kids don't see job security. Take it from a dad with a graduated son looking for work. recognize however that today there is no "employment for life" employeers or employees. We used to see resumes with 4-6 jobs in a decade and presume that person couldn't hold work. Not, its nowmal to see people with that kind of job rotation. So - both employeer and employee are part of the solution there.Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-29254740466890774002013-04-30T11:59:41.729-07:002013-04-30T11:59:41.729-07:00We are falling behind in educating the next genera...We are falling behind in educating the next generation and it's initiatives like NapaLearns that can perhaps give legs to a new approach that will breed success on success. <br />Building physical walls for defense went out with the advent of the cannon in the 1300s. Building physical walls to keep people out/in has a more recent successful example in the former Soviet Union. While there is a wall between the US and Mexico, it’s largely useless keeping people movement from taking place. What we do have is an immigration policy that creates a Wall of Administration so that we encourage illegals to come into the country and keep out a portion of those trying to come across legally by working within the system. <br /> As it relates to farmworkers, labor has a market like anything else. If we created a perfect system that was simple to negotiate and workers earned a fair wage defined by their own family standards, they will come. They will come with or without the wall. The wall itself between Mexico and the US isn't doing much of anything useful as far as I can tell, but maybe someone else has another view.<br />Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-29515907573679102232013-04-30T11:20:02.897-07:002013-04-30T11:20:02.897-07:00Thanks Anon 9:31. That one took a fair amount of t...Thanks Anon 9:31. That one took a fair amount of time to write to try and get the right presentation. Thanks for reading to the end and commenting.Rob McMillan rmcmillan@svb.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396624790174552807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-56848643571867780872013-04-29T18:44:13.605-07:002013-04-29T18:44:13.605-07:00Anonymous--
Can you give us an example one of thes...Anonymous--<br />Can you give us an example one of these technologies that can't leave the barn? Inquiring minds want to know....<br />PinotgravesPinotgraveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123660758178090092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-74341393068761941712013-04-29T12:52:23.563-07:002013-04-29T12:52:23.563-07:00As far as agricultural shortage, mechanization can...As far as agricultural shortage, mechanization can replace the farm worker. The technology currently exists to plant, cultivate and harvest crops, however the UFW has prevented many technologies from leaving the barn. <br />Great insight into education! We cannot just invest money into a system that is broken. We need to select teachers from the top of the class, pay them as such and allow them to teach! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-77108704383997691152013-04-29T12:18:21.089-07:002013-04-29T12:18:21.089-07:00There is another aspect to the supply farm labor i...There is another aspect to the supply farm labor in coming decades. The rural parts of states in Mexico that have provided immigrant labor in the past (e.g. Oaxaca, Michoacan) are largely depopulated now. The birth rate per woman in Mexico has gone from ~7 in 1960 to a little more than 2--about replacement level. In spite of what we read of drug cartels in Mexico, the economy is growing and providing jobs that are better-paying than ever before. So regardless of their legal status, it is not clear to me that there is another cohort of Mexican citizens yearning to become farm workers here in the American West. Demographers at the Pew Research center believe there were fewer people born in Mexico living in the US in 2011 than in 2007.Pinotgraveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123660758178090092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-7355202249333294872013-04-29T10:46:17.774-07:002013-04-29T10:46:17.774-07:00"As it relates to the high-paid jobs being fi..."As it relates to the high-paid jobs being filled with the H1-B visa program, the answer is no simply because we are no longer able to educate our children so they can compete with educated immigrants. ", actually I believe it's because High Tech companies are unwilling to hire and give a crash coarse retraining to our existing Engineers in this country already. Besides when a High Tech comapnay can get tax credits and even pay less to a H1-B employees why bother with laid off Engineers. <br /><br />Further with High Tech being so lay off and sell off happy you really think college kids see it as job security? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-85971676843170671902013-04-29T10:32:41.588-07:002013-04-29T10:32:41.588-07:00Well written. I have always tried explaining to pe...Well written. I have always tried explaining to people how education is an investment in our own economy and how if our citizens are well educated the increase in taxes that they would bring in over their lifetime from their income would more than make up for the initial investment in schools. Thank you so much too for talking so plainly and openly about the necessary role of immigrants in our society. Sometimes I wonder if people ever truly think through their "build a wall" plans to address illegal immigration. Not only would it never work, but America just wouldn't be the land of opportunity anymore and wouldn't have the magnetic effect of bringing in the brightest and hardest working people. Why on Earth would we ever consider doing that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-941731830705031230.post-62884356398579096052013-04-29T09:31:54.741-07:002013-04-29T09:31:54.741-07:00appreciate your article and the details included. ...appreciate your article and the details included. you covered the issue when usually immigration articles are written only involving one portion of the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com